mingw vs cygwin

http://www.mingw.org/wiki/HOWTO_Specify_the_Location_of_External_Libraries_for_use_with_MinGW#comment-278. MinGW - Minimalist GNU for Windows A native Windows port of the GNU Compiler Collection (GCC) Brought to you by: cstrauss , earnie , gressett , keithmarshall Will. MinGW on the other hand, provides functions supplied by the Win32 API. In class we've used Visual studio enterprise 2017. Cygwin applications by principle are not considered a “Native Win32 application” because it relies on the Cygwin® POSIX Emulation DLL or cygwin1.dll for Posix functions and does not use win32 functions directly. You just need to tell configure about it using the --target option, like so: --target=x86_64-w64-mingw32 That way, make will be invoking the appropriate tools. Try Linux (Ubuntu). It is a compiler package, and can generate executables in any licence you want, without paying a penny--assuming you are not using other stuff that may bind you. The compiler looks like any other MinGW installation but it's build from HEAD of the repository (so you get the newest GCC possible) and it comes with prebuild Boost, OpenSSL, SQLite, Python 2, Python 3, zlib, GNU libraries, lzma, ncurses, tcl/tk, unicode, X11 and more... Won't mysys2 achieve all of that? Using Cygwin your applications will have POSIX substrate with pros and cons. The latter ships with a sweet pacman like package manager and elegant shells like zsh, so I wonder if there is still a gap in the emulation layer. Best regards, Yongwei -- Wu Yongwei URL: However POSIX is supported in Cygwin but not is the same case with MinGW. While programs compiled with Cygwin need cygwin1.dll for running the program. Mais maintenant, il y a MinGW-w64 et MSYS2. They provide 32 and 64 bit compilers, along with some arm support as well. Maybe that's the solution. That said, I'm still having a problem with mysys2, see last paragraph here, if you have any notion of how to actually make those work :). IDEs vs text editors depends on what size project you're working on. Bien que vous pourriez envisager d'utiliser VS sur Windows, GCC sur Linux / Unices. You could theoretically install Ubuntu from the Microsoft Store and use that for Compilation of CMake Projects.You could also theoretically use Clang( ships with VS now) and MSVC from the same project without any major efforts for CMake projects. Cookies help us deliver our Services. ( Log Out /  The reason i went away from VS in the first place is that i was afraid i was doing myself a disservice by "hiding" behind an IDE (as i'm still a beginner). Hero Member; Posts: 1586; About Free Pascal and MinGW (or cygwin) « on: June 04, 2013, 05:26:35 am » Hi there! Cygwin émule tout l'environnement POSIX, tandis que MinGW est un ensemble d'outils minimal pour la compilation uniquement (compile l'application native Win.) Been thinking that it may be easier to just go back to VS, but the thing is that i've fell in love with Sublime, and much prefer it as a text editor to VS. But now there is MinGW-w64 and MSYS2. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. MinGW on the other hand, provides functions supplied by the Win32 API. Cygwin's MinGW-w64 compiler is a cross-compiler, because it's hosted on Cygwin but targeting MinGW-w64. What about MinGW, is that a viable option? Is VS Code an IDE though, i thought that was just an editor? I've put debian, because it is really the minimal WSL install available and you can choose packages as you go. It really didn't work for me, very slow. Users looking for such functionality should look to Cygwin. Check the web page for more details. MSYS2 uses Pacman (known from Arch Linux) to manage its packages and comes with three different package repositories: 1. msys2: Containing MSYS2-dependent software 2. mingw64: Containing 64-bit native Windows software (compiled with mingw-w64 x86_64 toolchain) 3. mingw32: Containing 32-bit native Windows software (compiled with mingw-w64 i686 toolchain) Cygwin comes only with Cygwin-dependent software. ( Log Out /  When I need to debug in depth, I will build projects for visual studio, but I mostly just use the command promt with makefiles and sublime. By default, code compiled in MinGW’s GCC will compile to a native Windows X86 target, including.exe and.dll files, though you could also cross-compile with the right settings, since you are basically using the GNU compiler tools suite. MSYS(in MingGW) by itself does not contain a compiler or a C library, therefore does not give the ability to magically port UNIX programs over to Windows nor does it provide any UNIX specific functionality like case-sensitive filenames. And simply do a g++ file.cxxMaybe if you are interested, you could use CMake projects as well and things would work the same as they do on Linux! Sometimes its just better all around to work in an IDE, for example for Java you're better off using IntelliJ or Eclipse instead of Vim or a text editor, because its a verbose language. Managing libraries is really convenient. Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. The latest preview improves support for alternative compilers and build environments such as MinGW and Cygwin. for Windows, then it is better to use the one from MSVC or MinGW ( libusb-1.0.dll) and not Cygwin (cygusb-1.0.dll). That’s all I have as of now on Cygwin and MinGw. Beyond that, I doubt that I'd have many unique requirements. GCC stands for "GNU Compiler Collection" and is a piece of GNU software that includes a … Building cross-platform C and C++ code is easier than ever with Visual Studio 15.3 Preview 4. I don't know why everybody's telling you to use linux or WSL somehow. You should be able to install libraries and toolchains through its package manager. July 19th, 2017. It's essentially native gcc for windows, no environments or vms. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. There is a 64-bit environment similar to MinGW but it’s a different project. This works wonderfully, but some libraries are a pain to install using cygwin, and i've read in some troubleshooting threads that using cygwin is just stupid unless you have a really good reason to do so. Using MinGW and Cygwin with Visual C++ and Open Folder. The problem is there’s no /usr directory psychically. MinGW allows developers to create native Microsoft Windows applications. Users looking for such functionality should look to Cygwin. bash - portable - msys2 vs cygwin . Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. MinGW on the other hand, provides functions supplied by the Win32 API. MinGW (short for "Minimalist GNU for Windows"), is a minimalist (i.e., small but fewer features compared with cygwin) development environment for native Microsoft Windows applications, in particular: A port of the GNU Compiler Collection (GCC), including C, C++, ADA and Fortran compilers; Cygwin produces executables that run only on Cygwin, MinGW produces native executables that do not have dependencies apart from what Windows already provides. Windows Subsystems for Linux for CMake Projects. When I tried to put Qtcreator packages to run in xfce4, the app frequently froze. WSL. MinGW - Minimalist GNU for Windows A native Windows port of the GNU Compiler Collection (GCC) Brought to you by: cstrauss , earnie , gressett , keithmarshall Thanks for the response, i get your point. Good news is that pacman saves the buffer of what's already been downloaded, so you just call the packages installations repeatedly until it finishes them. MinGW is higher performance than Cygwin, but it’s also 32-bit which may be a problem with your applications. Visual Studio 19.1 allows you to use Windows Subsystems for Linux for CMake Projects. You can also easily build a program which doesn't require a console window, using gcc -mwindows, under MinGW and Cygwin. Cygwin Bash.exe vs mintty.exe. In minGW the MSYS is a collection of GNU utilities such as bash, make, gawk and grep to allow building of applications. I use mingw (via msys2) for almost everything and it works great. It uses its own package management system, commonly called setup.exe. IN addition to providing access to the Windows API, it also provides its own implementations of some Microsoft C … By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Cygwin applications by principle are not considered a “Native Win32 application” because it relies on the Cygwin® POSIX Emulation DLL or cygwin1.dll for Posix functions and does not use win32 functions directly. But i wanted to get a feel for what's "happening under the hood" with regards to linking etc., so i downloaded cygwin (on windows) and Sublime, and this has been my setup for the last month or two. Author Topic: About Free Pascal and MinGW (or cygwin) (Read 4582 times) jmpessoa. Compatibility is considered higher priority than performance. What about MinGW, is that a viable option? Lorsque j'essaie d'exécuter l'Unix de commande ls, je reçois bash: ls: command not found. Or maybe you could use Docker Containers for Building? Usually in linux /usr/local/lib is the default library search path. You have mingw but also gcc and clang, plus all of those packages. No direct guide, but on this page, at the bottom, you can download a fork of GCC with MCF thread model. A fellow blogger here, found your site via Monstra, and I have a piece of advice: Just install mingw through msys2's pacman and put msys64/mingw32/bin and msys64/usr/bin in your PATH, and you are good to go. I've used Cygwin forever, but I'm reinstalling Windows, and wondering if I should give WSL a shot. Perhaps that's a good idea, though i really prefer just to have one setup for everything and not have to reboot into Ubuntu to program, and as i'm still in uni, don't you think it'll make my life easier to just stick with windows? MSYS is a building environment to provide some simple POSIX environment support. MinGW uses GCC/G++, and MinGW is not a compiler, it's basically a stripped version of Cygwin that uses MS libs wherever possible. Any other thoughts are welcome as well of course. You will need special modification on LIBRARY_PATH environment variable which is much tedious and cumbersome. Opposed to Cygwin, MinGW (minimalist GNU for Windows) is a native port of GCC (GNU Compiler Collection). In my opinion its plain stupid to use text editors for programming when there are IDEs like VS Code or Jetbrains stuff. Honestly WSL is nice but I've tried it with the graphic interface tools and it is waay laggy. WSL is a real Linux kernel built on a lightweight VM. Have you thought about installing Ubuntu (e.g. I've followed the guides, they are quite simple. Yeah, developing in notepad is stupid, but editors like VIM, VS Code, and even Sublime can be set up to be just as good as at least the free IDE options. ( Log Out /  I'm struggling a bit to understand what MinGW really is, and i'm not as comfortable in cmd as in cygwin. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the cpp_questions community, a subreddit for c++ questions and answers, Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Now I'm using simply mysys2, it has mingw_w64 for 32bits and 64 bits, it has gcc and clang, clang tools, analyzer, etc. It also has Qt5. MinGW is *NOT* an improvement over Cygwin. Cygwin in contrast to MinGW Cygwin applications by principle are not considered a "Native Win32 application" because it relies on the Cygwin® POSIX Emulation DLL or cygwin1.dll for Posix functions and does not use win32 functions directly. If you want to call MessageBox or CreateProcess, you can do that. Tout comme Cygwin peut télécharger de nombreux paquets différents. as Dualboot)? Everything seems to work, even faster than in my manjaro linux boot, except their pacman package is weird when downloading packages, it will throw errors of "connection to mirror too slow" even tho I'm downloading at 10Mbps. I'm trying with MinGW and Cmake now, and i'm making at least some progress, but it's still hard. Ubuntu is another option. Does anybody have any tips for making my setup a bit easier when it comes to installing libraries etc, and still be able to use Sublime? MinGW-w64 is a build env for 64bit and/or 32bit Windows application. MinGW MinGW (Minimalist GNU for Windows), formerly mingw32, is a native software port of the GNU Compiler Collection (GCC) to Microsoft Windows along with a set of freely distributable import libraries and header files for the Windows API. I mostly use Cygwin for standard *nix command-line tools, so I'm sure either would work, but a good terminal (when Cygwin got Mintty, it was a revelation) is a must. Malheureusement, le programme d'installation de MinGW-w64 que vous avez utilisé présente parfois ce problème. For running X applications, admittedly, I have tried only VcXsrv. Its a command prompt where users  run “./configure” then “make” to build programs. Cygwin produces executables that run only on Cygwin, MinGW produces native executables that do not have dependencies apart from what Windows already provides. Off course they are not the same but which one to prefer when is a big challenge. MSYS2 vs. Cygwin - differences and similarities; MSYS2 on Wine - how to install and use MSYS2 under Wine [sadly broken with current version of MSYS2 and no-one is actively working on a fix as far as we know] Porting for MSYS2 or MinGW-w64 - useful resources and common issues; Package list - list of packages we provide Le premier était un outil auxiliaire dans MinGW destiné à exécuter des scripts autoconf. Depends on what you mean by "editor". Différences entre MSYS2 et Cygwin (2) Traditionnellement, MSYS bash était considéré comme inférieur à Cygwin bash. Do check it out? Cygwin delivers in that area much more effectively than WSL. Opposed to Cygwin, MinGW (minimalist GNU for Windows) is a native port of GCC (GNU Compiler Collection). That's my vote. I'm struggling a bit to understand what MinGW really is, and i'm not as comfortable in cmd as in cygwin. Was trying to build a simple gui for a Mandelbrot thing, and couldn't get it to work with fltk (the only gui i know at this point), so i decided to try another gui library, but i have been struggling with getting wxwidgets or SFML to work with Cygwin. Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. I prefer using Git Bash instead of Cygwin. Although both Cygwin and MinGW can be used to port Unix software to Windows, they have different approaches: Cygwin aims to provide a complete POSIX layer comprising a full implementation of all major Unix system calls and libraries. Vous avez juste besoin de dire configure à ce sujet à l'aide de la --target option, comme suit:--target = x86_64-w64-mingw32De cette façon, make sera en invoquant les outils appropriés. So to run the program which needs lots of dependency on other libraries I would prefer Cigwin over minGW. Je suis en train de lancer des commandes Unix sur le bash.exe et mintty.exe, trouvé dans Cygwin64/bin (par exemple, usr/bin/bash.exe). Why not have the best of Both worlds on Windows? Finally, may be you will need of a GUI. MinGW or Cygwin? Then I've set up Xfce 4. So the client program can not configure with “./configure”. Switch to msys2 and just use windows, no environments or extra layers needed. MinGW - Minimalist GNU for Windows A native Windows port of the GNU Compiler Collection (GCC) Brought to you by: cstrauss, earnie, gressett, keithmarshall Again, MinGW .a file should be good fro Cygwin users as well.-- The .a or .lib file and/or .dll.a file have to be different for MinGW and MSVC. MinGW-w64 is in all senses the successor to MinGW.org’s version. You don't think this is the case? If you want POSIX application deployment on this platform, please consider Cygwin instead. MinGW - Minimalist GNU for Windows A native Windows port of the GNU Compiler Collection (GCC) Brought to you by: cstrauss , earnie , gressett Does anybody have any tips for making my setup a bit easier when it comes to installing libraries etc, and still be able to use Sublime? Sometimes we get confused between Cygwin and MinGW when developing open source applications. While MinGW* applications are Windows native executables, MSYS2 software requires a POSIX-emulation layer, just like Cygwin does. Or if you really do like Sublime, use WSL with GCC installed just as you would on Ubuntu. Honestly, it appears as if you relied on the video to drive your point home. Obviously Unix is my preference, but if I can't have Unix than I'd rather have Unix tools on the OS I'm being forced to use than a Unix sandbox will always be less than a real Linux/BSD install but fails to integrate properly with the OS I'm using by necessity. write more. The single DLL should be good for all users, I believe it is also good for Cygwin users. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. Sorry about the horrible phrasing of this question by the way, i'm a bit frustrated here = p. Not on Windows right now so I can't test it but maybe the Linux subsystem would work. MinGW is suitable for the development of native MS-Windows applications. On the other hand, MinGW's priorities are simplicity and performance. Would you recommend VS Code over VS or any other setup for that matter? No, MinGW is for compatibility with Windows. You clearly know what you’re dealing with, so why waste your intellect just posting videos to your blog when you could be providing us with something insightful to read? Donc, si vous voulez rendre votre projet multiplate-forme, le choix entre les deux est évident, MinGW. Cygwin is not strictly POSIX. You can use makefiles and compile in the command promt. Cygwin est MinGW-w64 compilateur est un cross-compilateur, car il est hébergé sur Cygwin, mais le ciblage de MinGW-w64. About residual (and OT) question: Did you search "Cygwin vs MinGW" on the net ? While porting applications under MinGW, functions not native to Win32 such as fork(), mmap() or ioctl() will need to be reimplemented into Win32 equivalents for the application to function properly. MinGW does not have a Unix emulation layer like Cygwin. The problem arises while a program depends on third party library – there is no place to put this third party library so that the default search path can find the library file. Any library you need can buy built natively with mingw and cmake's msys2 makefile option has always worked for me. If you are compiling your program with MinGW, then the generated binaries can be distributed without any dependencies on external DLL. 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